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  1. dj.orion

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    3250 Mati Total dg problem komplikasi laen :)..

    Ponsel masuk dlm keadaan mati konyol :D.. (telanjang)
    Informasi dr user,.. bekas kemasukan air n sdh 2 minggu dibiarin mati tergeletak.

    Dicheck dg PSU, arus dlm kondisi Full Short :eek:..
    Langkah:
    Disemprot cairan pembersih karatn, d'diamin bbrp wkt n terakhir dicuci dg thiner.
    Dicheck ulang dg PSU, masih short.
    *Angkat RETU, check -> short
    *Cabut Z7520 (PA) -> check = short
    *Cabut L7502 (AHNE) -> check = short
    *Cabut L2301, L2306 n V2302 (TAHVO) -> check = arus 0.03A
    *Ganti TAHVO n pasang kembali RETU n semua L n Z xg dicopot -> check = masih 0.03A

    Dg arus 0.03A dicoba hidupkan = arus bgerak naik 2 tahap 0.08A -> 0.25A (sdh hidup)
    Dilanjutkan check dg UFS = Check Boot -> OK n Info -> OK
    Langkah lanjutan:
    *Cabut L2305 (LED N2301) -> check = arus 0.03A
    *Cabut L2309 (LED N2302) -> check = arus 0.03A
    *Cabut Driver MMC -> check = arus 0.03A
    *Cabut Bluetooth -> check = arus 0A
    *Ganti Bluetooth -> check = arus 0A
    *Pasang kembali kedua L sblm'y n drvir MMC
    *Mgunakan MTBox,.. check product n rebuild PMM BT.

    Dihidupkan dg Batt, kondisi OffLine n No MMC :mad:..
    *Kondisi jalur Conn SimCard keliatan OK -> ganti Emif R2700
    *Check ConnMMC -> hambatan dioda pd pin 3, 4, 5 n 7 OK (R3200 OK)
    *Ganti Driver MMC (N3200)

    Dhidupkan kembali, kondisi Profil n MMC tdetect OK
    Penyakit lain'y gx ad signal :mad:..
    *Search manual, gx ad pgerakan arus n dlm tempo hitungan bbrp detik az No Operator
    *Asumsi xg rusak area VCO, check pd T7501 = signal Full Noise (VCO OK)
    *Ganti C7511
    *Dinyalakan.. signal muncul n drop
    *Search manual = dapat all provider
    *Ganti PA -> check = gx ad indikator signal sama sx (PA gx bagus)
    *Ganti PA 2x -> check = signal ad n drop
    *Ganti PA 3x (copotan) -> check OK n stabil

    Pasang kembali n check kondisi laen, Buzzer, Speaker, Mic, BT, Camera, Charg n arus standby

    All Look OK -> standby 1hari -> Buka Nota :rolleyes:
     
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    N70 muncul handfree (copy paste dr Acay)

    # CEK HAMBATAN DI SYSTEM KONEKTOR(X2001) NORMAL..
    # CEK TEGANGAN DI PIN3(ACI) SYSTEM KONEKTOR CUMA ADA 1V
    SEHARUS NYA YANG NORMAL HARUS ADA 2.49 V
    ANALISA:
    -JALUR PIN3(ACI) BERMASALAH KARNA TEGANGAN NYA CUMA ADA 1 V
    SOLUSI NYA :
    - COBA ANGKAT C2011 DI JALUR ACI/PIN3, KEMUDIAN CEK KEMBALI
    TEGANGAN ACI/PIN3 LANGSUNG NORMAL ADA 2,49 V
    KESIMPULAN:
    - TEGANGAN DI JALUR ACI/PIN3 CUMA ADA 1V KARNA C2011 bermasalah..
    PROBLEM SELESAI DENGAN BUANG C2011!!!
     

    Asisten VRE
    Kiswara Modem
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    N73 Mati Toatal (copy paste dr Acay)

    N73 matot:
    cek arus : teken on/off arus naik 20MA..
    cek pake jaf:
    Booting phone...
    Error sync the phone..----- rap3g ga booting /1st boot rap3g error!!
    cek syarat rap3g:
    1. vio = 1,8 v
    2. vio vilma = 1,8 v
    3. vana = 2,5 v
    4. vr1 = 2,5 ada langsung jatuh / ga stabil
    5. vcore = ga ada!
    6. purx = 1,8 v
    7. sleepclk = 32,768 khz
    8.sleepx = ga ada!!
    9.rf clk = ga ada!!
    analisa :
    suntik vcore 1,4v pake ps kemudian cek kembali syarat kerja rap3g
    uda ok stabil semua..
    kemudian cek pake jaf dalam keadaan vcore suntik tegangan pake ps dan hasil nya:
    JAF version 1.98.45
    Detected PKEY: 90009519
    Card life counter: 54.77%
    P-key nokia module version 01.00
    Detected JAF INTERFACE version: 01.B0, Driver version: 40000, Library version: 30107
    JAF DCT4/BB5 LOADERS DIR: C:\Program Files\ODEON\JAF\Flash\
    JAF DCT4/BB5 PRODUCT DIR: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\
    JAF USB LOADERS DIR: C:\Program Files\ODEON\JAF\FlashUSB\
    JAF DCT3/DCTL LOADERS DIR: C:\Program Files\ODEON\JAF\Flash3\
    Changing mode...Done!
    Changing mode...Done!
    Booting phone...
    APE Boot Data:
    Asic ID: 17100708
    Asic Mode ID: 00
    Asic Public ID: 42F298198CF3C3D051A7770E680331D87813708C
    HASH: 49A97E826B93BA20B7ED0B082475C00500000000
    ROM ID: 1DFD66132C872FD4
    CMT Boot Data:
    Asic ID: 000000010000022600010006010C192101003000
    Asic Mode ID: 00
    Asic EM ID: 00000B21
    Asic Public ID: 1C60010FFCBB00548B82B1183EAE53D660112696
    HASH: BAF3A9C3DBFA8454937DB77F2B8852B100000000
    ROM ID: 273F6D55DFAAF68F
    CMT Boot File: C:\Program Files\ODEON\JAF\Flash\rap3gv3_2nd.fg
    Loader version: 01.1E.00 -> Revision: 0000
    Patching CMT boot step1...
    Patching CMT boot step2...
    Patching CMT boot step3...
    CMT Boot Ready
    CMT Flash ID: 22E800EC -> ST
    CMT Flash Data: 00000000000000000000000000000000
    CMT Loader: C:\Program Files\ODEON\JAF\Flash\RAP3Gv3_algo.fg
    Loader version: 01.1F.00 -> Revision: 0000
    Patching CMT loader step1...
    Patching CMT loader step3...
    CMT Loader Ready
    APE Boot: C:\Program Files\ODEON\JAF\Flash\helen3_2nd.fg
    Loader version: 01.23.00 -> Revision: 0000
    Patching APE boot step1...
    Patching APE boot step2...
    Patching APE boot step3...
    APE Boot Ready
    APE Flash ID: 00A100EC -> ST
    APE Flash Data: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
    Done!
    Restarting phone...Done!
    kesimpulan:
    100% kerusakan ada di ic betty karena vcore nya ga ada sehingga rap3g 1st boot nya error!!!
     
  4. victpato

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    Re: Share Kasus BB5 dg Analisa n Solusi

    1. vio = 1,8 v
    2. vio vilma = 1,8 v
    3. vana = 2,5 v
    4. vr1 = 2,5 ada langsung jatuh / ga stabil
    5. vcore = ga ada!
    6. purx = 1,8 v
    7. sleepclk = 32,768 khz
    8.sleepx = ga ada!!
    9.rf clk = ga ada!!

    bos mo tanya ni ngecek nya pke apa ?

    maklum baru bos :):) butuh bimbingan.....:tea:
     
  5. dj.orion

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    Re: Share Kasus BB5 dg Analisa n Solusi

    VCore seharus'y ad.. salah satu syarat tegangan kerja Processor.!!!
    Check langsung ke sumber tegangan VCore tsb :)..

    Point 4, 8 n 9 check dg Osiloscope ;).. utk melihat tegangan n bentuk2'y wkt bekerja (dinamis)
     

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    Re: Share Kasus BB5 dg Analisa n Solusi

    iya. harus banyak belajar dari pengalaman bos-bos djawir
    good good good :thumb:
    lagi dong! :D
     
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    Re: Share Kasus BB5 dg Analisa n Solusi

    SALUT BUAT BOS ORION YG SUDAH SEDEMIKIAN DETAIL DALAM MENGANALISA KERUSAKAN PONSEL :thumb:
    GOOD FOR HOBBIES & ANTHUSIAST TECHNICIAN ... BUT BAD FOR BUSINESS :)
    TO MANY TIME .. TO MUCH INVESTMENT
    SAYA MAH CUMAN PAKE MULTITESTER & BOX FLASHER DOANK, PELAJARI SCHEMATIC, PELAJARI LOG CHECK & REPAIR SOFTWARE, PERIKSA DAN UKUR KOMPONEN .... GA BISA DETAIL PERIKSA KAYA BOS ORION :(
    PINGIN TAPI ... HARGA & WAKTU ..... KE USER JADI GA MASUK :confused:
    KAPAN YA END USER INDONESIA MEMANDANG&MENGHARGAI SEORANG TEKNISI LEBIH DARI SEKEDAR TUKANG NGOPREX ?
    GAK BISA IKUTAN SHARING DI THREAD INI DEH :(

    BOS ORION LANJUTKAN SHARING DETAIL ANALISA YA .... :thumb: sementara saya nyontek-nyontek aja dulu ga papa kan :D
    GOOD WORK THAT WOULD BE FOLLOWING BY OTHER TECHNICIAN WHO MAKE REPAIRING NOT JUST A BUSINESS ONLY ! :thumb:

    SORRY QLO OOT BOS ....
     
  8. total xtremer

    total xtremer Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    Re: Share Kasus BB5 dg Analisa n Solusi

    good sharing......
    lanjut aja.............................
    sangat berguna, baik bagi yg baru belajar, sedang belajar, masih belajar, ataupun yg mengajar.....
    tidak ada yg perfect di dunia gsm ini...................................
    thanks
     
  9. dj.orion

    dj.orion Super Moderators Super Moderator

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    ... Just Reply

    He3 :D.. Too Many Time, Not Really.!!!
    Mgk member melihat post xg panjang gtu, jadi dipikir rumit :confused:..
    Just Pull Out, Pull In n Test :p..
    Disini hanya dg alat seada'y juga, PSU, Skema, Box Flasher, MultiDigital, n Blower

    Too Much Invest.??? Maybe.!!! But.. Make more efficient, Not in Debt ;)..
    Peralatan hanya sbg alat bantu utk lbh mempermudah n mempercepat kerja
    So.. Waktu berbanding lurus dg Peralatan, bukan berbanding terbalik spt Too Many Time -> Too Many Invest :D..

    Knp Boss gx bisa share.???
    Xg simple2 juga boleh dg langkah2 kerja'y
    Spt kata Boss TotalGSM, Nobody Perfect
    biar bisa sedikit banyak membantu member lain.
    Saling share cara n teknik reparasi, gtu.. ;)..

    Biar gx dikeliatan rumit, di bbrp post bawah ne.. Gw coba share bbrp xg simple2 dr kasus hari ini.!!! :)..
     

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    7610 NOKIA Only.y... U

    7610 Nokia Be9o (Melotot)

    Check dg PSU -> gx short
    1st flash biasa, boot normal mode -> sama be9o'y..
    Ganti Zokus 2x -> gx ada perubahan
    2nd flash, dg full erase n flash ulang, boot normal mode = contact retailer
    Write RPL n PM (no area error) n format user area, boot normal mode -> kembali NOKIA
    Dicoba colokin charger -> muncul NOKIA gelap
    Analisa area kerusakan antara UPP or RAM
    Ganti xg lbh gx resiko dulu.. RAM -> masih ketemu NOKIA
    Ganti UPP -> flash, boot normal mode -> Insert SimCard
    Senyum dech.!!! :)..

     
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    7610 Contact Retailer

    7610 Contact Retailer

    Check dg PSU -> gx short
    Format user area -> failed
    Check dg MxKey -> Semua data keliatan normal
    Format 3 jari+ lancar -> masih CR
    Full erase, flashing, write RPL n PM (lancar) -> ee.. ketemu lagi CR
    Dg Charger -> muncul NOKIA
    SwitchON n SwitchOff bisa
    Analisa berdasarkan pengalaman:
    Kemungkinan besar UPP masih bekerja dg baik n format user area fail dg add 02xx (lupa)
    90% dr area flash terakhir
    Ganti Fl2 n flash, boot -> insert SimCard :thumb:..
     
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    7610 Mati Total

    7610 Mati Total

    Kondisi board penuh lendir :D.. n informasi dr user bekas obokan
    Check dg PSU -> gx short n SwitchOn -> arus up n down normal
    Check dg NBox -> 1st Boot Error
    Cleaning PCB n Check tegangan utama
    Vio = 1.7V n Vana = 2.7V -> Normal
    Vcore dr SMPS = 0.2V -> SMPS rusak
    Test jumper Vio ke C Vcore
    Check dg Nbox lagi -> 1st n 2nd boot OK (Positif SMPS)
    Ganti SMPS ;)..
    Nama IC Flash terdetect dg urutan xxxTB, No Name n xxxTB
    Normal, seharus'y dg urutan xxxTA, xxxTB n xxxTB
    Ganti IC Fl0 n Fl1 (Combo)
    Flashing -> hasil'y CR
    Read ASK n Write RPL
    Write PM n repair PMM (Bluetooth)
    n langkah terakhir Format User Area

    Check kondisi laen:
    Semua bekerja, hanya Camera gx berfungsi
    Bongkar n keliatan module Camera ketukar dg 6600

    Ujung'y.. SIP semua

     
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    thanks bget boss tas info nya...
    saya mohon nih tuk analisa kerusakan sinyal..
     
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    boss kalau 3660 gagal flash kayak ini
    my dongle UFS3

    1st Boot Ok, WD2, UPP: 1081
    Fl0: 0x00000000-0x007FFFFF,0001267E,Amd 29BDS643HT
    Fl1: 0x02000000-0x027FFFFF,0001267E,Amd 29BDS643HT
    Fl2: 0x04000000-0x047FFFFF,26020110,
    Algorithm: w3_amd.fia, w3_cbusb.fia, Ver: 4.23.3
    Algorithm Ok, MSID: 8409C789CB0AB3619996593A8A
    Decoded MSID: 3E4EBAF7-00D7FA41-A8000000
    Encoded FAID: 43D043FE-1B32405D-28CFF2EA
    Area1: 0x00000000-0x0000FFFF Erased, Time: 00:00
    Area2: 0x00010000-0x006FFFFF Erased, Time: 01:08
    Area3: 0x02000000-0x023FFFFF Erased, Time: 00:38
    Erasing: 0x04000000-0x046CBFFF ...
    Erasing Error: 10, at: 0x04000000-0x0401FFFF, 940207, Time: 00:00
    Process Failed, Repowering Mobile

    yang dimaksud area 4 0x04000000-0x0401FFFF IC mana
    sebelumnya thank's
     
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    dj.orion Super Moderators Super Moderator

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    http://forum.djawir.com/bb5/17748-share-pengalaman-analisa-signal-bb5-n-solusi.html
    Hanya sebatas analisa prediksi ;)..

    kapan2 kan dishare kasus signal, analisa n perbaikan'y

    Kan sdh terpampang Fl2 = IC Flash terakhir D313 ;)..
    Copotin Flash tsb n check conectivitas ke UPP, terutama jalur Memcont
    Barangkali putus .???
     
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    3230 Hanya bisa Hidup dg Battery

    3230 Hidup dg Batt n kondisi Contact Retailer
    Ditest dg PSU -> gx short ;)
    Dg UFS, hny bisa di Check -> 1st n 2nd boot n Flash terdetect semua
    Flash complete -> tetap gx bisa boot ke any mode (Local, Test or Normal)

    Praduga awal BSI pada jalur flash pin bermasalah, ternyata semua dlm kondisi OK :confused:..
    Dicheck hambatan Dioda pd pin2 flash tersebut n dibandingkan dg table normal,
    Utk WD2 dg nilai:
    1 = 1
    2 = 0.610
    3 = 0.550
    4 = 0.700
    5 = 0.745
    6 = 0 (Ground)
    7 = 0.880
    8 = VBatt

    3230 xg bermasalah:
    1 = 1
    2 = 0.480
    3 = 0.588
    4 = 0.705
    5 = 0.750
    6 = Ground
    7 = 0.880
    8 = VBatt

    Hambatan pd jalur 2 berubah naik 0.200+
    Dimana Pin 2 = jalur VPP, tegangan Boot Local Mode 3.2V terhambat menjadi lbh kecil ke UPP
    Karena dijalur tsb gx ad resistan luar, di simpulkan kerusakan pd UPP 90%

    Dicoba ambil tegangan dr Pin8 (VBatt dr Box 4.2V) dg di kasih resistan diantara'y sekitar 100K utk menghambat arus guna mencegah jebol di proses software

    Hasil'y 3230 bisa langsung Local Mode n di Info:
    MCU Sw: V 5.0717.0 28-03-07 RM-51 (c)NMP
    PPM Sw: V 5.0717.0 28-03-07 RM-51 (c)NMP.33
    BT Det:
    Prd.Cd:
    Bpr.Cd:
    Pro.Sn:
    HW :
    UEM : 144
    UPP : 4225
    RFIC :
    DSP :
    IMEI : ??????-??-??????-?
    SLconf: 555-55-55555555555
    SLprof: 000000000000000-0
    SLvar : 0055FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
    SLaux : 00055555
    HwSig : CC3C2A025333B115
    BoxId : 5555555555555555
    MastCode: ?
    Provider: Not Found
    #pw+ 052 323 773 015 131 +1#
    #pw+ 846 191 665 463 307 +2#
    #pw+ 796 950 413 401 664 +3#
    #pw+ 324 336 142 245 042 +4#
    #pw+ 098 903 010 671 116 +5#
    #pw+ 025 143 146 323 452 +6#
    #pw+ 717 390 537 525 305 +7#

    Kesimpulan 100% dr UPP :)..

    Log dg garis merah, menunjukan kemungkinan HP bekas di full erase :rolleyes:..

    Giliran dg MTBox
    Read ASK:

    ....
    Read successfull!
    UEM IMEI is: 35455301583729


    DATA UEM -> OK
    Calculate RPL n write kembali:
    Write RPL:
    Rebuild FLASH and UEM for imei: 35455301583729
    IMEI Sent successfully
    Unlock phone...
    Phone is in: Unknown mode
    Imei:
    SIM Unlock FAILED
    Completed IMEI Rebuild

    *Write PM Sedotan
    *Repair PMM (Bluetooth)
    *Format User Area

    Final:
    MCU Sw: V 5.0717.0 28-03-07 RM-51 (c)NMP
    PPM Sw: V 5.0717.0 28-03-07 RM-51 (c)NMP.33
    BT Det:
    Prd.Cd: 0522253
    Bpr.Cd: 0519957
    Pro.Sn: DNA772770
    HW : 0584
    UEM : 144
    UPP : 4225
    RFIC : 0205
    DSP : B0439U_05w33
    IMEI : 354553-01-583729-7
    SLconf: 001-01-00000000000
    SLprof: 000000000000000-5
    SLvar : 00553545530158372900
    SLaux : 00055555
    HwSig : BC6DCF8AE4C576DA
    BoxId : 894FFFFFFFFFFFFF
    MastCode: 57 05 23 01 44
    Provider: GSM Test Equipment
    #pw+ 403 337 224 145 745 +1#
    #pw+ 884 951 304 261 462 +2#
    #pw+ 908 932 424 651 445 +3#
    #pw+ 484 917 602 211 020 +4#
    #pw+ 087 823 306 510 336 +5#
    #pw+ 042 263 061 054 772 +6#
    #pw+ 327 926 045 531 532 +7#


    Finishing, .lepas kembali R n jumperan'y, biar gx short
     
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    :thumb::thumb::clap::thumb: salut buat bos Orion :thumb::thumb: mohon bimbingan lebih lanjut buat saya yang gak ngerti apa-apa ini, sekali lagi trims bos Orion:thumb:
     
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    bung orion tuk ngukur yang ginian pake pa tu bung, gimana caranya ? saya bayangkan hp yang kon bt nya gak ada,mohon pencerahannya
    1. vio = 1,8 v
    2. vio vilma = 1,8 v
    3. vana = 2,5 v
    4. vr1 = 2,5 ada langsung jatuh / ga stabil
    5. vcore = ga ada!
    6. purx = 1,8 v
    7. sleepclk = 32,768 khz
    8.sleepx = ga ada!!
    9.rf clk = ga ada!!

    1 = 1
    2 = 0.480
    3 = 0.588
    4 = 0.705
    5 = 0.750
    6 = Ground
    7 = 0.880
    8 = VBatt
     
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  19. dj.orion

    dj.orion Super Moderators Super Moderator

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    Jawaban'y ada di post #6 :)..
    Maksud'y Conn Batt spt 3650/60 xg lepas dr PCB.???
    Dijumper dg cable az ;)..


    Menggunakan Multitester ;)..
     
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    6680 Buzzer Kecil

    1st.. Dicoba ganti n test dg bbrp buzzer -> sama kecil suara'y
    *Check pd PCB pad Buzzer (P&N) -> Jalur OK
    *Check hambatan dioda (P&N) -> Tidak ditemukan short dg selisih 0.002 -> OK
    Kesimpulan sementara: Component Rv (Resistan Variable) n C xg terpasang ke ground -> OK
    *Cabut C2105 n check -> tidak ada perubahan
    Selanjut'y dg ganti RETU -> sama

    Kemungkinan dr Software.??? :noidea: .. PM.???
    Dg MxKey, SX4 n write PM
    Hasil'y -> sama.!!! :confused:..

    *Sekarang giliran check tegangan pd Pad P&N, awal boot 0Volt...
    Tunggu sampai boot sound NOKIA muncul -> 0.6Volt
    Oh.. :rolleyes:.. Oo... Ad xg tdk benar.!!!
    *Selanjutnya pindah di testpoint J2200 (RETU-RAP) -> 0.25Volt
    Kesimpulan lanjutan: antara RETU n RAP
    *Coba 1x lagi RETU -> sama.!!!
    *RAP direhot -> sama.!!!
    *RAP direball -> -> hasil'y:
    Suara menjadi Nyaring :D.. n dicheck tegangan P&N pas 2.0Volt :thumb:.
     

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